Copy of HR, CAD, RMS, IAPro or similar software, Parking Tickets, Driving citations, J-walking or similar citations, DEMS, 911 Call/radio recorder, Internet logs, Forensics software SQL data (Vancouver Police Department)

Thank you for submitting your request for the following public records: To Whom It May Concern:

Pursuant to the Washington Public Records Act, I hereby request the following records:

First off phone communications or in person communications with me must be recorded. My phone number is 206-905-6583 and is automatically record inbound and outbound and with auto recording legal warning on inbound and outbound. Some of you have other numbers for me. I won't accept calls from those numbers. Any meetings or phone conferences should include a PRA attorney and the IT person with most knowledge of SQL.

The purpose of the request to address the commercial use prohibition on list of persons is to conduct very complex analysis that goes far beyond what the agency has ever done and to importantly put all of the data in a data warehouse to do cross database analysis. Tim Clemans or InvestigateSafety LLC will not use the data to solicit business transactions nor will it knowly share the data with others that state they want to do so. The data will be published to the internet with the statement taken from Washington State SOS "RCW 42.56.070(8) prohibits the Office of the Secretary of State from providing access to lists of individuals requested for commercial purposes. The company or person using this data agrees that lists of individuals derived by the company or person from the information obtained from this site will not be provided to any customer for commercial purposes in violation of RCW 42.56.070(8)." modified to say supplying agency's name. https://www.sos.wa.gov/corps/alldata.aspx Toby Nixon of WashingtonCOG said to "Does the non commercial use prohibitions for list of persons and dashcam prohibit requester from publishing those records online i filled out a bunch of forms stating purpose of data including to put online and havent heard back" that "I do not believe posting online falls under the definition of "commercial use", even if you have ads on the site. But I'm not your attorney. 🙂"

The request is for a copy of all HR, CAD, RMS, IAPro or similar software, Parking Tickets, Driving citations, J-walking or similar citations, DEMS, 911 Call/radio recorder, Internet logs, Forensics software including tables creating by the SQL software automatically like table of table names and columns. I demand that the data be copied to the CSV format and redactions be done in either Excel or a text editor replacing redacted content with *R*. No exemption log is requested/wanted unless the entire request is denied or for trade secrets/proprietary data/copyright exemptions. I demand to review all third party notifications before notifications are done to add more information to the notification. I records request the contracts and data dictionaries for each effected vendor. Washington State Law doesn't allow this request to be denied because it would take time to review and redact. Nor does it allow the agency to claim that copying the data creates a new record. "If any agency translates a record into an alternative electronic format at the request of a requestor, the copy created does not constitute atab new public record for purposes of this chapter. "

I demand that IT staff only be used to mass copy the data to CSV files using the most efficient software they already have. I request the written name of each sql server used and the name of each sql access tool owned by the agency or the agency's IT provider. I demand the cheapest IT employee or contactor be used that has the ability to press button on SQL access software. I demand that IT not records officer communicate with this email address about the technical aspects of the request and that attorney not records officer communicate with this email about the legal aspects of the request.

I demand a custom data invoice be provided prior to any data copying except to ensure no data covered by the request is deleted. Vendors should be able to freeze deletion for the time it takes to copy the data.

For first installment I demand the table of each table and columns per table: For Microsoft SQL this is the tables sys.objects, sys.columns, sys.types, INFORMATION_SCHEMA.COLUMNS Oracle: ALL_TAB_COLS or DBA_TAB_COLS Mysql: information_schema.columns Postgres: information_schema.columns
For second installment I demand 10 oldest rows of each table except ones released in first installment
Installments are that I request be coordinated with me with an efficient review/redact/release plan. We can work together to remove columns from the request and or rows based on Excel queries.

The requested documents will be made available to the general public, and this request is not being made for commercial purposes.

In the event that there are fees, I would be grateful if you would inform me of the total charges in advance of fulfilling my request. I would prefer the request filled electronically, by e-mail attachment if available or CD-ROM if not.

Thank you in advance for your anticipated cooperation in this matter.

I look forward to receiving your response to this request within 5 business days, as the statute requires.

Sincerely,

TimClemans

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Your request was received by the City of Vancouver, Washington, Police Records Division and has been assigned reference number P005361-102119 for tracking purposes.
You will be contacted within five (5) business days with an update as to when the responsive records will be available. You can monitor the progress of your request at the link below and you'll receive an email when your request has been completed.
Thank you for your interest in public records.
City of Vancouver, Washington
Police Records

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10/25/2019
Sent via email to:  requests@muckrock.com
Tim Clemans
MuckRock News DEPT MR 81930 411A Highland Ave
Somerville MA 02144
RE: PUBLIC DISCLOSURE REQUEST P005361-102119
Dear Tim Clemans:
This letter is an acknowledgement of your records request dated 10/21/2019 9:17:01 AM, for the following: To Whom It May Concern:Pursuant to the Washington Public Records Act, I hereby request the following records:First off phone communications or in person communications with me must be recorded. My phone number is 206-905-6583 and is automatically record inbound and outbound and with auto recording legal warning on inbound and outbound. Some of you have other numbers for me. I won't accept calls from those numbers. Any meetings or phone conferences should include a PRA attorney and the IT person with most knowledge of SQL.The purpose of the request to address the commercial use prohibition on list of persons is to conduct very complex analysis that goes far beyond what the agency has ever done and to importantly put all of the data in a data warehouse to do cross database analysis. Tim Clemans or InvestigateSafety LLC will not use the data to solicit business transactions nor will it knowly share the data with others that state they want to do so. The data will be published to the
Due to the City’s other currently outstanding public records requests that we are in the process of responding to, I anticipate that the City will need until 10/28/2019 to locate and assemble the requested documents, notify third parties affected by the request pursuant to RCW 42.56.520, and to determine whether any of the information requested is exempt from disclosure.
You will be notified if additional time is required or if the requested records are ready earlier than the above referenced date. Please do not hesitate to contact me with any questions or concerns regarding the process of your request.
Thank you for your interest in public records.
Truly,
Karen Stauber
Records Supervisor

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10/28/2019
Tim Clemans
MuckRock News DEPT MR 81930 411A Highland Ave
Somerville MA 02144
requests@muckrock.com
RE: Public Disclosure Request P005361-102119
Dear Tim Clemans:
This letter is to acknowledge your public records request which we received on 10/21/2019, for the following:
To Whom It May Concern:

Pursuant to the Washington Public Records Act, I hereby request the following records:

First off phone communications or in person communications with me must be recorded. My phone number is 206-905-6583 and is automatically record inbound and outbound and with auto recording legal warning on inbound and outbound. Some of you have other numbers for me. I won't accept calls from those numbers. Any meetings or phone conferences should include a PRA attorney and the IT person with most knowledge of SQL.

The purpose of the request to address the commercial use prohibition on list of persons is to conduct very complex analysis that goes far beyond what the agency has ever done and to importantly put all of the data in a data warehouse to do cross database analysis. Tim Clemans or InvestigateSafety LLC will not use the data to solicit business transactions nor will it knowly share the data with others that state they want to do so. The data will be published to the internet with the statement taken from Washington State SOS "RCW 42.56.070(8) prohibits the Office of the Secretary of State from providing access to lists of individuals requested for commercial purposes. The company or person using this data agrees that lists of individuals derived by the company or person from the information obtained from this site will not be provided to any customer for commercial purposes in violation of RCW 42.56.070(8)." modified to say supplying agency's name. https://www.sos.wa.gov/corps/alldata.aspx Toby Nixon of WashingtonCOG said to "Does the non commercial use prohibitions for list of persons and dashcam prohibit requester from publishing those records online i filled out a bunch of forms stating purpose of data including to put online and havent heard back" that "I do not believe posting online falls under the definition of "commercial use", even if you have ads on the site. But I'm not your attorney. 🙂"

The request is for a copy of all HR, CAD, RMS, IAPro or similar software, Parking Tickets, Driving citations, J-walking or similar citations, DEMS, 911 Call/radio recorder, Internet logs, Forensics software including tables creating by the SQL software automatically like table of table names and columns. I demand that the data be copied to the CSV format and redactions be done in either Excel or a text editor replacing redacted content with *R*. No exemption log is requested/wanted unless the entire request is denied or for trade secrets/proprietary data/copyright exemptions. I demand to review all third party notifications before notifications are done to add more information to the notification. I records request the contracts and data dictionaries for each effected vendor. Washington State Law doesn't allow this request to be denied because it would take time to review and redact. Nor does it allow the agency to claim that copying the data creates a new record. "If any agency translates a record into an alternative electronic format at the request of a requestor, the copy created does not constitute atab new public record for purposes of this chapter. "

I demand that IT staff only be used to mass copy the data to CSV files using the most efficient software they already have. I request the written name of each sql server used and the name of each sql access tool owned by the agency or the agency's IT provider. I demand the cheapest IT employee or contactor be used that has the ability to press button on SQL access software. I demand that IT not records officer communicate with this email address about the technical aspects of the request and that attorney not records officer communicate with this email about the legal aspects of the request.

I demand a custom data invoice be provided prior to any data copying except to ensure no data covered by the request is deleted. Vendors should be able to freeze deletion for the time it takes to copy the data.

For first installment I demand the table of each table and columns per table: For Microsoft SQL this is the tables sys.objects, sys.columns, sys.types, INFORMATION_SCHEMA.COLUMNS Oracle: ALL_TAB_COLS or DBA_TAB_COLS Mysql: information_schema.columns Postgres: information_schema.columns
For second installment I demand 10 oldest rows of each table except ones released in first installment
Installments are that I request be coordinated with me with an efficient review/redact/release plan. We can work together to remove columns from the request and or rows based on Excel queries.

The requested documents will be made available to the general public, and this request is not being made for commercial purposes.

In the event that there are fees, I would be grateful if you would inform me of the total charges in advance of fulfilling my request. I would prefer the request filled electronically, by e-mail attachment if available or CD-ROM if not.

Thank you in advance for your anticipated cooperation in this matter.

I look forward to receiving your response to this request within 5 business days, as the statute requires.

Sincerely,

TimClemans

Upload documents directly: https://https://www.muckrock.comhttps://www.muckrock.com/ The City's interpretation of your requests into three requests.  The first a request for "a copy of all HR, CAD, RMS, IAPro or similar software, Parking Tickets, Driving citations, J-walking or similar citations, DEMS, 911 Call/radio recorder, Internet logs, Forensics software including tables creating by the SQL software automatically like table of table names and columns." Secondly, a request for "the contracts and data dictionaries for each effected vendor."
And thirdly, "the written name of each sql server used and the name of each sql access tool owned by the agency or the agency's IT provider."

Your request requires clarification before the City may respond.  RCW 42.56.520. If this interpretation of your request is incorrect, please clarify your request so that the City may fully respond. If you do not advise that we have misinterpreted your request in any way, then the City will conclude that it adequately determined the scope of your request.
Public agencies have a duty to produce only “identifiable records.”  RCW 42.56.080;  See Hangartner v. City of Seattle, 151 Wn.2d 439, 447-48 (2004).  The Washington State Public Disclosure Act provides for public access to and disclosure of “identifiable public records,” (RCW 42.56.080), but does not require agencies in Washington to compile or create records or compilations of information in response to public record requests. See Smith v Okanogan County, 100 Wn. App. 7; 994 P.2d 857 (2000); See Hangartner v. City of Seattle, 151 Wn.2d 439, 447-48 (2004).
You will be notified if additional time is required or if the requested records are ready earlier than the above referenced date.
If you do not respond within sixty (60) days, the City will consider your request to be abandoned.  Please contact me if you have any questions.
Sincerely,
Karen Stauber
Records Supervisor

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12/31/2019
Sent via email to:  requests@muckrock.com
Tim Clemans
MuckRock News DEPT MR 81930 411A Highland Ave
Somerville MA 02144
RE: PUBLIC DISCLOSURE REQUEST P005361-102119
Dear Tim Clemans:
This letter is an update of your records request received by the City of Vancouver on 10/21/2019 9:17:01 AM. It is our understanding that you are requesting the following documents: To Whom It May Concern:Pursuant to the Washington Public Records Act, I hereby request the following records:First off phone communications or in person communications with me must be recorded. My phone number is 206-905-6583 and is automatically record inbound and outbound and with auto recording legal warning on inbound and outbound. Some of you have other numbers for me. I won't accept calls from those numbers. Any meetings or phone conferences should include a PRA attorney and the IT person with most knowledge of SQL.The purpose of the request to address the commercial use prohibition on list of persons is to conduct very complex analysis that goes far beyond what the agency has ever done and to importantly put all of the data in a data warehouse to do cross database analysis. Tim Clemans or InvestigateSafety LLC will not use the data to solicit business transactions nor will it knowly share the data with others that state they want to do so. The data will be published to the
The City notified previously that we need additional information before we could assist you with your request, and would be closing your request if we did not receive a response within 60 days.  To date, we have not received a reply.  We are, therefore, closing your request.
Truly,
Karen Stauber
Records Supervisor

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