Converus documents (Davis County)

Mark Harris filed this request with the Davis County of Utah.
Tracking #

18-014

Multi Request Converus documents
Est. Completion None
Status
Withdrawn

Communications

From: Mark Harris

To Whom It May Concern:

Pursuant to Utah’s Government Records Access and Management Act (“GRAMA”), I hereby request the following records:

Communications between the department and Converus Inc or Ruiz Protective Service Inc, from Jan 1 2016 to the current date, or the date of your search, whichever is later. To include reports and data supplied by Converus/RPS, and any contracts.
Any assessment, evaluation or report on the functionality or use of the Converus EyeDetect system within the department, over the same time period.

The requested documents will be made available to the general public, and this request is not being made for commercial purposes.

In the event that there are fees, I would be grateful if you would inform me of the total charges in advance of fulfilling my request. I would prefer the request filled electronically, by e-mail attachment if available or CD-ROM if not.

Thank you in advance for your anticipated cooperation in this matter. I look forward to receiving your response to this request within 10 business days, as the statute requires.

Sincerely,

Mark Harris

From:

Mr. Harris -
I received your records request. As you know it reads as follows:

Communications between the department and Converus Inc or Ruiz Protective
Service Inc, from Jan 1 2016 to the current date, or the date of your
search, whichever is later. To include reports and data supplied by
Converus/RPS, and any contracts.
Any assessment, evaluation or report on the functionality or use of the
Converus EyeDetect system withing the department, over the same period of
time.

I am emailing to gather more information regarding your request. Do you
know which department under the county would be likely to have a contract
with the above mentioned incorporation? if not, what kind of services do
they provide.

I simply need more information to be able to begin a search for the records
you are requesting. I will not be able to begin processing your request
until I hear back from you.

Thank you,
--
Rebecca Abbott
Records Manager
Davis County
801-451-3277

From: Davis County

Mr. Harris -
I received your records request. As you know it reads as follows:

Communications between the department and Converus Inc or Ruiz Protective
Service Inc, from Jan 1 2016 to the current date, or the date of your
search, whichever is later. To include reports and data supplied by
Converus/RPS, and any contracts.
Any assessment, evaluation or report on the functionality or use of the
Converus EyeDetect system withing the department, over the same period of
time.

I am emailing to gather more information regarding your request. Do you
know which department under the county would be likely to have a contract
with the above mentioned incorporation? if not, what kind of services do
they provide.

I simply need more information to be able to begin a search for the records
you are requesting. I will not be able to begin processing your request
until I hear back from you.

Thank you,
--
Rebecca Abbott
Records Manager
Davis County
801-451-3277

From: Mark Harris

Hi Rebecca,

Thanks for the very swift response. Yes, I believe it is the District Attorney's office -- apologies, I should have put that in my initial request.

regards

Mark

From:

Davis County
GRAMA Office
P.O. Box 618
Farmington, UT 84025

January 5, 2018

This is a follow up to a previous request:

Hi Rebecca,

Thanks for the very swift response. Yes, I believe it is the District Attorney's office -- apologies, I should have put that in my initial request.

regards

Mark

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On Jan. 4, 2018:
Mr. Harris -
I received your records request. As you know it reads as follows:

Communications between the department and Converus Inc or Ruiz Protective
Service Inc, from Jan 1 2016 to the current date, or the date of your
search, whichever is later. To include reports and data supplied by
Converus/RPS, and any contracts.
Any assessment, evaluation or report on the functionality or use of the
Converus EyeDetect system withing the department, over the same period of
time.

I am emailing to gather more information regarding your request. Do you
know which department under the county would be likely to have a contract
with the above mentioned incorporation? if not, what kind of services do
they provide.

I simply need more information to be able to begin a search for the records
you are requesting. I will not be able to begin processing your request
until I hear back from you.

Thank you,
--
Rebecca Abbott
Records Manager
Davis County
801-451-3277
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On Jan. 4, 2018:
Mr. Harris -
I received your records request. As you know it reads as follows:

Communications between the department and Converus Inc or Ruiz Protective
Service Inc, from Jan 1 2016 to the current date, or the date of your
search, whichever is later. To include reports and data supplied by
Converus/RPS, and any contracts.
Any assessment, evaluation or report on the functionality or use of the
Converus EyeDetect system withing the department, over the same period of
time.

I am emailing to gather more information regarding your request. Do you
know which department under the county would be likely to have a contract
with the above mentioned incorporation? if not, what kind of services do
they provide.

I simply need more information to be able to begin a search for the records
you are requesting. I will not be able to begin processing your request
until I hear back from you.

Thank you,
--
Rebecca Abbott
Records Manager
Davis County
801-451-3277
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On Jan. 3, 2018:
To Whom It May Concern:

Pursuant to Utah’s Government Records Access and Management Act (“GRAMA”), I hereby request the following records:

Communications between the department and Converus Inc or Ruiz Protective Service Inc, from Jan 1 2016 to the current date, or the date of your search, whichever is later. To include reports and data supplied by Converus/RPS, and any contracts.
Any assessment, evaluation or report on the functionality or use of the Converus EyeDetect system within the department, over the same time period.

The requested documents will be made available to the general public, and this request is not being made for commercial purposes.

In the event that there are fees, I would be grateful if you would inform me of the total charges in advance of fulfilling my request. I would prefer the request filled electronically, by e-mail attachment if available or CD-ROM if not.

Thank you in advance for your anticipated cooperation in this matter. I look forward to receiving your response to this request within 10 business days, as the statute requires.

Sincerely,

Mark Harris

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Upload documents directly: https://www.muckrock.com/accounts/agency_login/davis-county-2626/converus-documents-davis-county-47121/?email=rabbott%40co.davis.ut.us&uuid-login=7b7316af-e87e-4c03-a307-975fbc000361#agency-reply
Is this email coming to the wrong contact? Something else wrong? Use the above link to let us know.

For mailed responses, please address (see note):
MuckRock News
DEPT MR 47121
411A Highland Ave
Somerville, MA 02144-2516

PLEASE NOTE: This request is not filed by a MuckRock staff member, but is being sent through MuckRock by the above in order to better track, share, and manage public records requests. Also note that improperly addressed (i.e., with the requester's name rather than "MuckRock News" and the department number) requests might be returned as undeliverable.

From: Davis County

Mr. Harris -
Thank you for your clarifications. We are going to need additional time to
respond to this request. There will very likely be associated costs to this
request. Davis County Information Systems department has to search and pull
electronic communications which takes significant time. Would you like me
to contact you with an estimate before we proceed?

Rebecca Abbott
Records Manager
Davis County
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Rebecca Abbott
Records Manager
Davis County
801-451-3277

From: Mark Harris

Thanks for the update. Yes, please, a cost estimate would be very helpful,

best

Mark

From: Davis County

Mr. Harris -
Thank you for your response. I don't know the scope of the records at this
point. This will take some work from our Information Systems department to
look at electronic communications so we will need additional time to
respond and I did not want to begin that process without notifying you of
the cost.

I have one additional clarification, do you mean the County Attorney's
Office?

By my count I will start the 10 day deadline from the time I received your
most recent response which puts the deadline for a response at Jan 30,
2018. I will notify you as soon as possible of any costs associated with
the request as well as a response date should it be later than Jan 30.
Thanks,

Rebecca Abbott
Records Manager
Davis County

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Rebecca Abbott
Records Manager
Davis County
801-451-3277

From: Mark Harris

Thank you.

The information I have (via the manufacturer Converus) is that it is being used by the "Davis County District Attorney". Is there such a body?

From: Davis County

Good morning Mr. Harris -
Davis County does not have a District Attorney's Office. Only a County.

I wanted to notify you the cost estimate we were able to calculate and find
out if you would like us to continue with the search. This is only an
initial estimate and could change if the search by the Information Systems
department takes longer than anticipated. We do find that we get rather
close on the estimate though. We anticipate the cost for $107.52.

Would you like us to proceed?

Rebecca Abbott
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Rebecca Abbott
Records Manager
Davis County
801-451-3277

From: Mark Harris

Thanks for the reply. Am I correct in understanding that you charge for the SEARCH, not for the results? So that even if the search produces no results, there is still a charge?

This is not something that I have experienced in any other records requests I've made with other agencies (several hundred over dozens of jurisdictions).

Mark

From: Davis County

Mr. Harris -
No, it is not our practice to charge if no responsive records are found. in
fact, as a general practice we try not to charge for records requests.
However, the staff time associated with these types of requests,
specifically the email correspondence, is extensive. Hence the charge. The
statute we work under for fees is Utah Code Ann. § 63G-2-203.

Rebecca
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Rebecca Abbott
Records Manager
Davis County
801-451-3277

From: Davis County

Mr. Harris -
I have been working through your request with the Davis County Attorney's
Office while waiting for your go ahead on the email search preformed by our
Information Systems department.
Our County Attorney, Troy Rawlings, and I wonder if it would be helpful to
speak with him before we go any further. He indicated that we are not
currently using the EyeDetect system and that he'd be happy to talk with
you about that. We thought that might be an avenue you'd like to explore
before we go down the road of initiating the search.

Please call me at your earliest convenience and we can discuss how you'd
like to proceed.

Rebecca Abbott
801-451-3277
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Rebecca Abbott
Records Manager
Davis County
801-451-3277

From: Mark Harris

That's a great idea. I'd be happy to chat with Mr Rawlings. I'll give you a call later today.

best

Mark

From: Davis County

Good morning Mr. Harris -
I have not heard from you in a couple of weeks. I just want to make sure we
are responsive on our part. Do you still intend to speak with County
Attorney Rawlings before proceeding with your request?

If I have not heard from you by Feb 15, 2018 I will consider your request
closed.

Rebecca Abbott
Records Manager
Davis County
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Rebecca Abbott
Records Manager
Davis County
801-451-3277

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