Electronic Messages
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| Submitted | Nov. 3, 2021 |
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Communications
From: Hal Flak
To Whom It May Concern:
Pursuant to the Ohio Open Records Law, I hereby request the following records:
All e-mail messages between the following account and the following domain:
@mcesc.org
and the domain @oakwoodschools.org
For the dates 1 January 2020 to 3 November 2021 or the date you acknowledge this request, whichever is later.
This request is not over-broad. It is for a specific domain, time frame, and delimited.
No redactions are expected.
Please supply the messages in a direct conversion PDF that enables text search and copying, as well as much smaller file size. Include the sender and recipient address as well as any attachments. If hyperlinks are present, please provide a document where the hyperlinks are clickable or fully visible and may be directly copied.
Thank you for your assistance.
The requested documents will be made available to the general public, and this request is not being made for commercial purposes.
In the event that there are fees, I would be grateful if you would inform me of the total charges in advance of fulfilling my request. I would prefer the request filled electronically, by e-mail attachment if available or CD-ROM if not.
Thank you in advance for your anticipated cooperation in this matter. I look forward to receiving your response to this request within 10 business days.
Sincerely,
Hal Flak
From: Muckrock Staff
To Whom It May Concern:
I wanted to follow up on the following Ohio Open Records Law request, copied below, and originally submitted on Nov. 3, 2021. Please let me know when I can expect to receive a response.
Thanks for your help, and let me know if further clarification is needed.
From: Hal Flak
Could you please acknowledge this records request and update the end date to:
30 November 2021 OR the date you acknowledge this request, whichever is later.
From: Muckrock Staff
To Whom It May Concern:
I wanted to follow up on the following Ohio Open Records Law request, copied below, and originally submitted on Nov. 3, 2021. Please let me know when I can expect to receive a response.
Thanks for your help, and let me know if further clarification is needed.
From: Muckrock Staff
To Whom It May Concern:
I wanted to follow up on the following Ohio Open Records Law request, copied below, and originally submitted on Nov. 3, 2021. Please let me know when I can expect to receive a response.
Thanks for your help, and let me know if further clarification is needed.
From: Muckrock Staff
To Whom It May Concern:
I wanted to follow up on the following Ohio Open Records Law request, copied below, and originally submitted on Nov. 3, 2021. Please let me know when I can expect to receive a response.
Thanks for your help, and let me know if further clarification is needed.
From: Muckrock Staff
To Whom It May Concern:
I wanted to follow up on the following Ohio Open Records Law request, copied below, and originally submitted on Nov. 3, 2021. Please let me know when I can expect to receive a response.
Thanks for your help, and let me know if further clarification is needed.
From: Hal Flak
Greetings,
Would you kindly please acknowledge this open records request?
Thank you.
From: Muckrock Staff
To Whom It May Concern:
I wanted to follow up on the following Ohio Open Records Law request, copied below, and originally submitted on Nov. 3, 2021. Please let me know when I can expect to receive a response.
Thanks for your help, and let me know if further clarification is needed.
From: Muckrock Staff
To Whom It May Concern:
I wanted to follow up on the following Ohio Open Records Law request, copied below, and originally submitted on Nov. 3, 2021. Please let me know when I can expect to receive a response.
Thanks for your help, and let me know if further clarification is needed.
From: Hal Flak
Dear Sir or Ma'am:
This request has been pending longer than is reasonable to collect and review information.
Please provide a reason why more time is needed or kindly comply with the obligations of the open records act.
If no reply is received legal action will be pursued. The government agency may be responsible for legal fees and statutory penalties.
From: Muckrock Staff
To Whom It May Concern:
I wanted to follow up on the following Ohio Open Records Law request, copied below, and originally submitted on Nov. 3, 2021. Please let me know when I can expect to receive a response.
Thanks for your help, and let me know if further clarification is needed.
From: Muckrock Staff
To Whom It May Concern:
I wanted to follow up on the following Ohio Open Records Law request, copied below, and originally submitted on Nov. 3, 2021. Please let me know when I can expect to receive a response.
Thanks for your help, and let me know if further clarification is needed.
From: Muckrock Staff
To Whom It May Concern:
I wanted to follow up on the following Ohio Open Records Law request, copied below, and originally submitted on Nov. 3, 2021. Please let me know when I can expect to receive a response.
Thanks for your help, and let me know if further clarification is needed.
From: Muckrock Staff
To Whom It May Concern:
I wanted to follow up on the following Ohio Open Records Law request, copied below, and originally submitted on Nov. 3, 2021. Please let me know when I can expect to receive a response.
Thanks for your help, and let me know if further clarification is needed.
From: Muckrock Staff
To Whom It May Concern:
I wanted to follow up on the following Ohio Open Records Law request, copied below, and originally submitted on Nov. 3, 2021. Please let me know when I can expect to receive a response.
Thanks for your help, and let me know if further clarification is needed.
From: Montgomery County Educational Service Center
Hal,
I represent Montgomery County Educational Service Center, and am responding to your public records request. The email address you used to send this request is not in general use.
You have ask4ed for emails between the domain @mcesc.org and the domain @oakwoodschools.org for the period January 1, 2020 to the current date. Your original request was from January 1, 2020 to November 3, 2021, and that search generated almost 30,000 email messages. As such, it is overly broad. State ex rel. Kesterson v. Kent State Univ., 156 Ohio St.3d 22, 2018-Ohio-5110, 123 N.E.3d 895, ¶¶ 23-26.
Would you be willing to clarify your request to include the subject matter in which you are interested?
Janet Cooper
Janet K. Cooper
Of Counsel
BRICKER & ECKLER LLP
312 N. Patterson Blvd., Suite 200
Dayton, OH 45402
From: Hal Flak
Thank you for the reply.
1) What should the e-mail address to receive open record requests be updated to for MCESC?
2) Please restrict the search to e-mail messages from MCESC to the following addresses:
lange.kimbe@oakwoodschools.org OR
duwel.todd@oakwoodschools.org OR
ramey.kyle@oakwoodschools.org OR
This should reduce the number of messages to a manageable number. If this is not the case, please let me know.
Thank you!
From: Muckrock Staff
To Whom It May Concern:
I wanted to follow up on the following Ohio Open Records Law request, copied below, and originally submitted on Nov. 3, 2021. Please let me know when I can expect to receive a response.
Thanks for your help, and let me know if further clarification is needed.
From: Muckrock Staff
To Whom It May Concern:
I wanted to follow up on the following Ohio Open Records Law request, copied below, and originally submitted on Nov. 3, 2021. Please let me know when I can expect to receive a response.
Thanks for your help, and let me know if further clarification is needed.
From: Montgomery County Educational Service Center
Hal,
I’m sorry about this delay. I’m working on getting these responses back to you. The number of emails that are generated by the search criteria you provide is the problem.
When the search was limited as you suggested, that being emails between the mcesc.org domain and four specific email addresses at Oakwood City Schools, the search generated 39,626 emails. Those broke down as follows:
Lange.kimbe@oakwoodschools.org<mailto:Lange.kimbe@oakwoodschools.org> 8.987
Duwel.todd@oakwoodschools.org<mailto:Duwel.todd@oakwoodschools.org> 140
Ramey.kyle@oakwoodschools.org<mailto:Ramey.kyle@oakwoodschools.org> 14,604
Hale.traci@oakwoodschools.org<mailto:Hale.traci@oakwoodschools.org> 627
The Todd Duwell and Traci Hale results are manageable, and I will provide those to you in the next several days.
Due to the volume of emails generated for Kimbe Lange and Kyle Ramey, would you be willing to refine your search criteria further by providing the subject matter or key words that you are interested in?
Thank you.
Janet Cooper
Janet K. Cooper
Of Counsel
BRICKER & ECKLER LLP
312 N. Patterson Blvd., Suite 200
Dayton, OH 45402
From: Hal Flak
For the addresses excluding Todd Duwell and Traci Hale, could you limit the messages to the month of June during the period as specified?
Hopefully this would reduce the amount to a manageable number.
Thank you for the follow up.
Is it possible to provide a status update on the requests you are managing for other agencies?
Have a great weekend.
From: Montgomery County Educational Service Center
Hal,
Thanks for the proposed modification. I’ll ask our IT Department to run it tomorrow, and will let you know the results.
I will be working on all outstanding requests in the coming days, and will let you know how things are going.
Janet
Janet K. Cooper
Of Counsel
BRICKER & ECKLER LLP
312 N. Patterson Blvd., Suite 200
Dayton, OH 45402
From: Montgomery County Educational Service Center
Hal,
In looking this over again, I do have a question. The original time frame was 1 January 2020 to November 3, 2021. I’m not clear what time period would be covered if limited “to the month of June during the period as specified.”
Thanks,
Janet
Janet K. Cooper
Of Counsel
BRICKER & ECKLER LLP
312 N. Patterson Blvd., Suite 200
Dayton, OH 45402
From: Hal Flak
Thank you for the reply.
No change to the original search for Todd Duwell and Traci Hale as results are manageable.
For the following addresses, limit message sent/received dates to 1 June to 30 June 2021 (inclusive), to reduce the number of messages:
Kimbe Lange and Kyle Ramey
Please let me know if you have any further questions.
Best,
Hal
From: Montgomery County Educational Service Center
Thank you. I’ll let you know the results.
Janet K. Cooper
Of Counsel
BRICKER & ECKLER LLP
312 N. Patterson Blvd., Suite 200
Dayton, OH 45402
From: Muckrock Staff
To Whom It May Concern:
I wanted to follow up on the following Ohio Open Records Law request, copied below, and originally submitted on Nov. 3, 2021. Please let me know when I can expect to receive a response.
Thanks for your help, and let me know if further clarification is needed.
From: Montgomery County Educational Service Center
Hal,
I did the reviews on August 2, and set up the ShareFile, and then neglected to send you the link for it. Here is the link that contains the 4 pdf files for the four Oakwood email addresses you were seeking.
https://bricker.sharefile.com/d-sed15b882f6d74e488d0707d990db3e10
You will need to establish a password to access the account. If you have any issues with it, please feel free to contact our support specialist, Aron Fisher, at afisher@bricker.com<mailto:afisher@bricker.com>. You will find him to be very responsive.
Janet
Janet K. Cooper
Of Counsel
BRICKER & ECKLER LLP
312 N. Patterson Blvd., Suite 200
Dayton, OH 45402
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From: Hal Flak
Hi,
Thanks so much for your help with this request! I really appreciate it.
Sincerely,
Hal Flak
From: Montgomery County Educational Service Center
Hal,
Are you just acknowledging receipt of the documents, or are you requesting something further?
Janet
Janet K. Cooper
Of Counsel
BRICKER & ECKLER LLP
312 N. Patterson Blvd., Suite 200
Dayton, OH 45402
From: Hal Flak
Hi, it was just a thank you note for this completed request for MCESC. Nothing further on this request.
There is a different Oakwood School request that has been pending for over a year that I also sent a message regarding.
Have a great day!