Lake MI, Civic Address Data

Nick Ingalls filed this request with the Open Records of Lake County, MI .
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From: Nick Ingalls

To Whom It May Concern:

Pursuant to Michigan's Freedom of Information Act ("FOIA"), I hereby request the following records:

A Shapefile or CSV containing at minimum the Address Points (house # and street name) and their corresponding Latitude/Longitude. If additional data such as the Unit Number, City, Zipcode, Parcel Id exists they should be included as well.

If this cannot be accessed, the parcel file including situs address would suffice.

Other names for this include: E911 Address Database, Civic Address File, Parcel Dataset, Land Ownership Dataset, Tax Parcels, Address Points.

I also intent to publish the data via the OpenAddresses Publication platform and would request a waiver of fees for the request.

The requested documents will be made available to the general public, and this request is not being made for commercial purposes.

In the event that there are fees, I would be grateful if you would inform me of the total charges in advance of fulfilling my request. I would prefer the request filled electronically, by e-mail attachment if available or CD-ROM if not.

Thank you in advance for your anticipated cooperation in this matter. I look forward to receiving your response to this request within 5 business days, as the statute requires.

Sincerely,

Nick Ingalls

From: Open Records

Good afternoon Mr. Ingalls,

I am hoping you can give me some clarification on your below FOIA request regarding Lake County parcels.

Are you requesting this information for all parcels in Lake County? Could you please give additional information for processing.

Thank you

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Lora A. Jones
Lake County Administration Office
Admin. Assistant/Grant Coordinator
800 Tenth St. Ste 100
Baldwin Mi 49304
231-745-6231 Ext 3110
ljones@co.lake.mi.us

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FOIA Officer
800 Tenth Street
Suite 100
Baldwin, MI 49304

November 29, 2017

To Whom It May Concern:

Pursuant to Michigan's Freedom of Information Act ("FOIA"), I hereby request the following records:

A Shapefile or CSV containing at minimum the Address Points (house # and street name) and their corresponding Latitude/Longitude. If additional data such as the Unit Number, City, Zipcode, Parcel Id exists they should be included as well.

If this cannot be accessed, the parcel file including situs address would suffice.

Other names for this include: E911 Address Database, Civic Address File, Parcel Dataset, Land Ownership Dataset, Tax Parcels, Address Points.

I also intent to publish the data via the OpenAddresses Publication platform and would request a waiver of fees for the request.

The requested documents will be made available to the general public, and this request is not being made for commercial purposes.

In the event that there are fees, I would be grateful if you would inform me of the total charges in advance of fulfilling my request. I would prefer the request filled electronically, by e-mail attachment if available or CD-ROM if not.

Thank you in advance for your anticipated cooperation in this matter. I look forward to receiving your response to this request within 5 business days, as the statute requires.

Sincerely,

Nick Ingalls

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From: Nick Ingalls

Hey Lora,

Good to hear from you!

>Are you requesting this information for all parcels in Lake County? Could you please give additional information for processing.

I am requesting a complete dataset of all the Civic Addresses in the county. Some counties store this information as Points and call
it an E911 dataset. Other counties like you mentioned above do not have individual points for their civic addresses and store it as an
attribute in the parcel data. If no point dataset exists than I am more than happy to get the complete county wide parcel dataset containing the
necessary site address attributes.

Cheers,
Nick

From: Open Records

Good morning Mr. Ingalls,
Your recent FOIA request is subject to our fee of $5,000.00. Should you decide to move forward with your request, you would need to remit a deposit in the amount of $2,500.00 before this request can be completed and sent.
Should you decide to purchase our data you would have to sign our data sharing agreement which prohibits sharing the data with outside sources.
Please let me know how you would like to proceed.
Thank you

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Lora A. Jones
Lake County Administration Office
Admin. Assistant/Grant Coordinator
800 Tenth St. Ste 100
Baldwin Mi 49304
231-745-6231 Ext 3110
ljones@co.lake.mi.us

"DISCLAIMER: This email and any attached documents may contain confidential information, belonging to the sender that is legally privileged. This information is intended only for the use of the individual or entity named above. The authorized recipient of this information is prohibited from disclosing this information to any other party and is required to destroy the information after its initial need is fulfilled.

If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution, or action taken in reliance on the contents of these documents is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete all copies of the email from your system."

From: Nick Ingalls

Hello,

Excessive fees make it really hard for individuals to obtain public records and give large companies monopolies over our own records. To help individuals get access to I cofounded years ago I cofounded OpenAddresses.io with the intent of making civic address data easier to find, manage and build awesome tools with - Since then the project has taken off
from disaster relief, to Search and Rescue, to finding your local bakery, developers have taken the data that we publish and done some incredible things with them!

That said we are an entirely volunteer organization and depend on a small number of donations every year to keep our servers hosting the data and pay for the occasional FOIA fee.
Unfortunately this means it can be difficult to obtain funding for data that we would otherwise love to obtain. In this case the fees scheduled would exceed our total expenditure for the past 4 years.

Civic Addresses are the glue that connects the digital world to the physical one, connecting vast troves of records to the real world and we would love the county of wexford to join
the growing number of counties and states and provide us data by waiving or reducing fees and allowing us to standardize, remix, and share civic addresses.

I would love for you to check out our current progress at: http://results.openaddresses.io/

Cheers,
Nick

From: Open Records

Good afternoon Mr. Ingalls,

As you stated in your initial email, the requested documents will be made available to the general public. Aside from the cost, the data you requested would require you agreeing to our data sharing agreement, and this would prohibit sharing the data with outside sources.

Unfortunately these circumstances would not benefit your project if you were to obtain the data.

Thank you

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Lora A. Jones
Lake County Administration Office
Admin. Assistant/Grant Coordinator
800 Tenth St. Ste 100
Baldwin Mi 49304
231-745-6231 Ext 3110
ljones@co.lake.mi.us

"DISCLAIMER: This email and any attached documents may contain confidential information, belonging to the sender that is legally privileged. This information is intended only for the use of the individual or entity named above. The authorized recipient of this information is prohibited from disclosing this information to any other party and is required to destroy the information after its initial need is fulfilled.

If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution, or action taken in reliance on the contents of these documents is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete all copies of the email from your system."

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