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Hal Flak filed this request with the Wright Memorial Public Library of Dayton, OH.
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From: Hal Flak

To Whom It May Concern:

Pursuant to the Ohio Open Records Law, I hereby request the following records:

All e-mail messages sent to or received from:

joseph.fulford@gmail.com

And the following persons for which the Wright Library should have e-mail addresses:

Randale J. Honaker III
Lu Ann Stanley
Darrell Crowe
Bob Eling
Jennifer Enseleit
Joshua Lounsbury

If you deny second portion as specific addresses are not available, please process the first.

Deleted or not and irrespective of account upon which the message resides.

From the dates: 1 January 2021 to the date upon which this request is processed.

This request is not over-broad. This request is for messages to or from specified e-mail address / name for which Wright Library should have the corresponding address, for a specified time period and a specific domain.

The requested documents will be made available to the general public, and this request is not being made for commercial purposes.

In the event that there are fees, I would be grateful if you would inform me of the total charges in advance of fulfilling my request. I would prefer the request filled electronically, by e-mail attachment if available or CD-ROM if not.

Thank you in advance for your anticipated cooperation in this matter. I look forward to receiving your response to this request within 10 business days.

Sincerely,

Hal Flak

From: Wright Memorial Public Library

Mr. Flak:

Wright Memorial Public Library has reviewed your public records request. As currently submitted, your records request specifies the personal e-mail address of one of the Board of Trustees, names of the other Trustees; however, your request gives an open-ended time period, and does not specify subject matter or terms, and is therefore, overly broad as under ORC 149.43(B)(2).

Please clarify your request and identify specific documents you are seeking. I look forward to receiving clarification from you. Thank you.

Mary Hopton, Fiscal Officer

Wright Memorial Public Library
1776 Far Hills Avenue
Oakwood, OH 45419
937.294.7171

From: Hal Flak

The time period is not open-ended. The request time-frame is intended to capture any delay in fulfillment. Please use 31 December 2021 as the time frame. I understand that the date is beyond the current date and will only report messages to the current date of message search as future dated messages usually do not exist (although unsent future dated messages or drafts may rarely exist).

I disagree that "does not specify subject matter or terms" is a requirement. I interpret ORC 149.43(B)(2) to require 1) domain, such as e-mail 2) limitation, such as account(s) 3) time frame, such as 1 Jan 2021 to 31 Dec 2021. Subject or other limitation is not required.

If you deny my appeal, please specify so in a written reply with reason for denial, as well as a name, e-mail, phone number, and physical address for a point of contact to which receive further communication on appeal of the denial.

From: Wright Memorial Public Library

Mr. Flak:

I am responding to your recent public records request, which requested:
All e-mail messages sent to or received from:
joseph.fulford@gmail.com
And the following persons for which the Wright Library should have e-mail addresses:
Randale J. Honaker III
Lu Ann Stanley
Darrell Crowe
Bob Eling
Jennifer Enseleit
Joshua Lounsbury
If you deny second portion as specific addresses are not available, please process the first. Deleted or not and irrespective of account upon which the message resides.
From the dates: 1 January 2021 to the date upon which this request is processed.

In response to your request, it is the Library’s position that it is vague, ambiguous, and overly broad. Pursuant to R.C. §149.43(B)(2), “If a requester makes an ambiguous or overly broad request * * * such that the public office or the person responsible for the requested public record cannot reasonably identify what public records are being requested, the public office or the person responsible for the requested public record may deny the request.” Ohio courts have consistently held that where a person requests access to all correspondence of a certain office, or all records containing any reference whatsoever to a particular person or topic, or requests correspondence and communications between unspecified people, over unspecified periods of time, and over general, non-specific matters, the request is improperly ambiguous and overbroad. (R.C. §149.43(B)(2)). See also State ex rel. Glasgow v. Jones, 119 Ohio St.3d 391, 2008-Ohio-4788, 894 N.E.2d 686; State ex rel. Dillery v. Icsman, 92 Ohio St.3d 312, 314, 750 N.E.2d 156; State ex rel. Daugherty v. Mohr, 10th Dist. Franklin No. 11AP-5, 2011-Ohio-6453; State ex rel. Zidonis v. Columbus State Community College, 133 Ohio St.3d 122, 2012-Ohio-4228, 976 N.E.2d 861; State ex rel. Zouderer v. Joseph, 62 Ohio App.3d 752, 577 N.E.2d 444 (10th Dist. 1989); Kanter v. City of Cleveland Hts., Ct. of Cl. No. 2018-01092PQ, 2018-Ohio-4592. Because your request for public records is overly broad and ambiguous, and since the Library cannot readily determine what you are specifically requesting, the Library must deny your request at this time.
Ohio Courts have specifically found that a request for all emails sent and received by certain public employees and/or officials is ambiguous and overly broad. State ex rel. Bristow v. Baxter, 6th Dist. Erie No. E-17-060, E-17-067, and E-17-070, 2018-Ohio-1973. Limiting the request even to short periods of time does not cure the ambiguity and overbreadth of such generic requests. Id. Notably, the request for emails in Bristow was limited to just two one-month periods. The Court concluded that this time limitation did not cure the ambiguity and overbreadth of the request. On the other hand, a request for all emails relating to a certain subject over a specified period is proper under R.C. 149.43. State ex rel. Glasgow v. Jones, 119 Ohio St.3d 391, 2008-Ohio-4788, 894 N.E.2d 686.

Because your public records request is vague, ambiguous, and overly broad, the Library is again denying your request at this time in accordance with R.C. §149.43(B)(2). However, you are welcome to revise and refine your request so that it is not vague, ambiguous and overly broad. As indicated in my previous correspondence, please clarify your request and specify the subject matter of the documents you are requesting. I look forward to receiving clarification from you.

Mary Hopton, Fiscal Officer

From: Hal Flak

Thank you for the reply. I agree with your assessment. Please replace the initial request with the below:

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To Whom It May Concern:

Pursuant to the Ohio Open Records Law, I hereby request the following records:

All e-mail messages sent to or received from:

joseph.fulford@gmail.com

And the following persons for which the Wright Library should have e-mail addresses:

Randale J. Honaker III
Lu Ann Stanley
Darrell Crowe
Bob Eling
Jennifer Enseleit
Joshua Lounsbury

Deleted or not.

From the dates: 1 January 2021 to 24 August 2021.

Within any of the following accounts:

potts@wrightlibrary.org
hix@wrightlibrary.org
schmidt@wrightlibrary.org
chesar@wrightlibrary.org
hale@wrightlibrary.org

The requested documents will be made available to the general public, and this request is not being made for commercial purposes.

In the event that there are fees, I would be grateful if you would inform me of the total charges in advance of fulfilling my request. I would prefer the request filled electronically, by e-mail attachment if available or CD-ROM if not.

Thank you in advance for your anticipated cooperation in this matter. I look forward to receiving your response to this request within 10 business days.

Sincerely,

Hal Flak

From: Wright Memorial Public Library

Mr. Flak:

Thank you for revising your request. As I am sure you are aware, the Library is currently undergoing construction since January, 2021. Within your request, we estimate thousands e-mails will be included for this project. We would like you to confirm whether or not you wish to have the construction project e-mails and attachments as part of your public records request. Please note including these e-mails will add significant time for retrieval, reviewing, and redaction of any, to complete this request. I look forward to your response. Thank you.

Mary Hopton, Fiscal Officer

From: Hal Flak

Hello,

I am not interested in construction related e-mails. How do you propose to systematically exclude them?

Thank you!

From: Wright Memorial Public Library

Mr. Flak:

I am investigating how to exclude the construction e-mails, as well as any duplicate e-mails from your previous OIC e-mail request. I will let you know once I have a better idea of what is possible. Thank you.

Mary Hopton, Fiscal Officer

From: Hal Flak

Hi,

Please put this request on hold while I reconsider if it is needed. I will get back to you soon.

From: Hal Flak

Hello,

The original request appears to be difficult to complete given the construction related messages that will be inadvertently included.

Please revise the request to this very narrow search:

Please search all fields of e-mail messages under the control of Wright Memorial Public Library for the term:

Aidan

Please make the search case insensitive.

For the dates 1 January 2020 to 7 September 2021. This is a large date range, however this search term is very unusual and should not produce many responsive documents.

Thank you for your assistance.

From: Wright Memorial Public Library

Mr. Flak:

We have reviewed your request and will begin gathering the records for this request. An update on time to completion will be given once the records have been reviewed. Thank you.

Mary Hopton, Fiscal Officer

From: Wright Memorial Public Library

Mr. Flak:

The public records containing "Aidan" have been gathered. I am starting the process of reviewing these records and will be able to give you a time estimate to complete the request no later than Monday, September 13, 2021. Thank you.

Mary Hopton, Fiscal Officer

From: Wright Memorial Public Library

Mr. Flak:

Update: The review and redacting process is 25% complete on this public records request.

Mary Hopton, Fiscal Officer

From: Wright Memorial Public Library

Mr. Flak:

The review and redaction of the files is complete. On any document where there is a redaction, I have noted Redaction A or Redaction B in red in the upper right hand corner. Redaction A is for items under ORC Section 149.432(B) for Library Records and Patron Information and Redaction B is for items under ORC Section 149.011(G) for non-public records.

Mary Hopton, Fiscal Officer

From: Hal Flak

Hi,

Thanks so much for your help with this request! I really appreciate it.

Sincerely,
Hal Flak

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